Tuesday, May 29, 2007

barf


Man, looking at that sac skyscraper forum is really making me sick to my stomach. Those people are just not like me at all. I know, it's cuz I'm a lib loser. They're stoked on crap like Azucar and Stonegrill and stuff (and of course skyscrapers). Like one guy's tagline is "sactown's hitting puberty". yuck. One of the posts led me to this, the proposed spaceage remodel of the Firestone building. That's nice how they have picture their previous J street mini-strip mall monstrosity on the bottom so you can see the great work they're capable of. If you squint that logo looks like a CPK logo, but I'm not sure if that's wishful thinking or confirmed.

Just look at that post at the top to get the gist of the tone.

I started looking at this originally to see what they were saying about Saca failing to buy out calpers.

Ha! I finally found that picture that advertises the L st. lofts where they have managed to almost photoshop that sketchy house next to Aioli out of existence.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Puberty!
Sac is growing hair in new places?

-Natalie.

Anonymous said...

I walked past the Firestone corner last week and there is a notice of CPK's application for a liquor license on the wall.

-Jen

beckler said...

Jen-
Weird, I am reading what you wrote but my brain refuses to acknowledge it. What's that you said? A charming and softly lit independently owned brasserie run by a French expat with a taste for obscure yet affordable wine and exotic preparations of fresh rabbit is opening? And he's going to have housemade sausages and top-notch cappucinos? Great!

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towerdistrict said...

of course you two wouldn't get along with anyone on those boards. you're all too concerned with sticking with ideas that fit your scenes, safely surrounded by others who agree with everything you say.

i know several of those people and all of them have completely different ideas of what they want their hometown to be... or not to be. i couldn't possibly give an adequate summation of the topics and details discussed on that website. but rest assured they go plenty deep enough to ensure even the most self-content sacramento historian could learn something new.

and that's the real hilarity.. beckler, you're a straight up hot head who never cares to be too immersed in any concern, so i'd expect your reaction... but william burg here is completely capable of holding an interesting discussion on other websites, namely sites run by people who grace the skyscraperpage forum. so it's a bit disappointing when i come across silly comments like the one above... i thought those where usually reserved for the jetrock persona?

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Anonymous said...

Heckasac owes me $50! Thanks towerdistrict.

-miller

beckler said...
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beckler said...

I like to think of myself as more of a straight up hot bod, personally.

Wburg is a straight up genuine guy, and a real original, not someone with alternating "personas" depending on which web forum he's on. the man is a local treasure, so you can dis me, but leave him alone!

I spent quite a bit of time reading that forum yesterday, and I didn't see much of a wide range of opinions presented. You can level the same criticism at this blog, if you'd like, but at least I don't claim otherwise.

towerdistrict-are you stoked a CPK is going into the firestone building

btw-those two comments were deleted cuz of typos

Anonymous said...

I'd say that there's definitely a wide range of opinions on there. From "I really like skyscrapers" all the way to "I really, really, really love skyscrapers!!". And everything in between. You should read it more carefully.


-miller

towerdistrict said...

I have nothing but respect for Mr. Burg. I greatly value his perspectives on history, preservation, and neighborhood / community activism. We've butted heads plenty on suckramento, but at the same time we've discussed issues on livinginurbansac, ljurban, centralcityopinion, metoblogging sacramento, and probably others too. So it's disappointing when a forum where I've spent a great deal of time gets bashed for being nothing more than shallow urban loft living boosters.

My point is that it's a forum. Not this linear blog format where beckler brings something up that annoys her, and miller agrees, then it all goes away with a food post. I'm not going to sit here and defend every post on the forum. I don't even agree with half of them. The forum ranges from teenage kids, to developers, to planners, and regular citizens like me. And if there was something lacking in discussion, say the importance of preservation or other general Jane Jacobisms, then maybe it's best said there? Either way, I'm sure noone on that forum has dismissed sacramentohistory - in fact it was directly cited in a discussion about streetcars and the newest railyards plans.

And really beckler... how does Azukar affect you personally? if a person was to dine at Stonegrill instead of Edokko II, do you think less of them? Is that your shtick? Bash others choices to validate your own... Food in Sacramento can't be the great unless Oklahoma's is worse? You can't be left until you place everyone else to your right?

I'll play along anyway - no i'm not stoked on CPK, yes I am stoked on Vrilakis' rehab of the Firestone, yes I am disappointed that the Towers won't be built as originally planned, no I don't think there would be any negative impact to the city if it were. Yes I like skyscrapers when they fill in parking lots, raze and recycle vacant office buildings and minimize impact to existing neighborhoods. No I don't like state office buildings that go dark at night. I like mixed-use development, I like family owned restaurants, independent music, wine bars, dive bars, clubs and pubs. I like safe pedestrian environments, high density infill housing, sustainable development and i voted Peter Camejo for governor.

beckler said...

No, my shtick is more of a self-deprecating, Jewish kind of thing. It involves lots of jokes about cancer.

Azukar (and its ilk) affects me personally because I ride around town at night and the people leaving it are often thisclose to drunkenly swiping me with their cars and/or verbally harassing me in some way, but other than that, it doesn't really. The situation in Darfur doesn't really affect me personally, either, but I still get bummed on it. Not that the two are comparable.

The Oklahoma thing was a joke! Have you ever tried to write an article and include some jokes? If you thought it was dumb, fine. I could have inserted any midwestern state into that joke. I don't care when people make jokes about granola-eating, yoga-doing Californians (posssibly because I did both of those things yesterday).

So you say you're not stoked on CPK. Well, for me, the degree of my not-stoked-itude means that I would rather that place sit as a vacant hulk forever than for it to have a CPK in it. That's a difference of opinion between us, I'm sure.

Anonymous said...

What she said.

-miller

smitty said...

I'm all for skyscrapers in Sac, as long as they put them in deep holes. I'm sure with a bit of florescent light bulbs around the paintings that looks like windows, people living there won't notice as long as there's a Starbucks sushi wine bar on the lowest floor.

When I was a kid, I used to wonder why rich people didn't build their own roads so they wouldn't have to see the Great Unwashed.

It wasn't until high school at Jesuit that I realized they want us to see them in their Ferrari station wagons.

What is your shtick Beckler? Someone who posts on your own blog about what concerns and interests you? What a waste.

Go Kings!

wburg said...

towerdistrict: Okay, okay, I'll go drop by skyscraperpage and say hi, and we'll see how things work out. It sounds like there are already a few people I know from other forums/blogs (or the real world) on there.

I did look over some other threads besides the one linked here, and there were some things I wouldn't mind commenting on. We'll see how that goes...